Up Topanga to Fernwood. Then a winding, wooded ascent through a bucolic Topanga neighborhood up to the Saddle Peak, Stunt, Schueren junction. Go down Schueren to Piuma, turn right and climb up to its summit and then descend down to Las Virgenes. Back to PCH for an optional snack, and then on home. About 50 challenging miles. The short ride can turn back at the Fernwood turnoff.